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Hey Northerners, This Is Why a Little Snow Shut the South Down

You may have heard that about 2 inches of snow shut down traffic in Atlanta and led to over 1000 cancelled flights.

This is the storm that swept through the southeastern U.S. in January 2014, dropping snow and ice on an area unaccustomed to dealing with winter weather.

This is the storm that swept through the southeastern U.S. in January 2014, dropping snow and ice on an area unaccustomed to dealing with winter weather. (NASA Goddard Space Flight Center / Flickr)

Schools were closed, children were stuck on school buses, and the National Guard was even called in.

If you're not from the south, this is probably very perplexing news. You might even find it hilarious, although I don't think that makes you an asshole.

Just uninformed.

I live in New York, but I'm from Tennessee, so I get annoyed by tweets like this:

And this:

So here's the complete idiot's guide to understanding why "a little snow" shut down parts of the south.

People from the South can't deal with the cold because they never have to deal with extreme weather. Lucky them, right?

No. Wrong.

I could point to an obvious example of extreme weather in the South here, like, I don't know ... Hurricane Katrina.

Damage from Hurricane Katrina. (USDAGov / Flickr)

Or show you that tornadoes are far more common in the South and Midwest than in the North.

Damage from the tornado in North Moore, Oklahoma

Damage from the devastating tornado in North Moore, Oklahoma, last year. (Lindell Dillon / Flickr)

But I think the best example of the extreme weather that the South faces is also the most obvious: heat.

Heat and drought plagued Southern states from 2010 to 2013, causing huge economic losses to farmers and forcing many to go without water for nonessential uses. High temperatures and lack of rain lead to many dangerous and deadly situations, including forest fires.

So if the South can deal with heat waves and tornadoes, why can't it handle a little snow?


Offensive jokes aside, the South can't handle the snow because it's not used to snow.

Modest amounts of snow shut down the South because no one's an expert in how to deal with it. This can create an exponential problem.

This Porsche wasn't prepared for the snow in Woodstock, Georgia, this week.

This Porsche wasn't prepared for the snow in Woodstock, Georgia, this week. (William Brawley / Flickr)

Think about it: one driver on a road with a hundred other cars who doesn't know how to drive in the snow might inch along really slowly or even stop, slowing down traffic - or even barrel along as usual and cause a wreck. And if this is what 80 cars out of 100 on the road are doing ... or 800 out of 1000 ... or 80,000 out of 100,000 ... the entire highway will just shut down.

That's basically what happened in Southern cities like Atlanta.

It's just a little snow. Why didn't they just plow the roads?

Four inches of snow in Atlanta

Four inches of snow in Atlanta. (Dennis from Atlanta / Flickr)

Well, why doesn't New York have as many tornado shelters as Texas?

If multiple tornadoes suddenly hit the Big Apple, people wouldn't have the tools to deal with them. Same thing going on here.

In the South, we just don't have fleets of snow plows and salt trucks ready to go.

snow plows in Denver, Colorado

This is how snow plows roll in Denver, Colorado. (osumary / Flickr)

For Boston or New York, it makes much more sense to spend money on snow plows and winter weather supplies than on, say, tornado shelters.

City and state governments don't have unlimited resources and can't prepare for every conceivable weather event. They prepare for the ones that are most likely.

And down South, snow just isn't likely. Particularly in cities like Birmingham, where it hasn't snowed in 21 of the last 30 years and where the budget is already severely stretched, spending money on snow equipment makes no sense.

If we shut down school every time it snowed in the North, no one would ever finish the school year on time.

You're right.

In fact, states differ widely on how much snow on average it takes to cancel school. Just check out this informative map made by Reddit user atrubetskoy:

Because snow is so rare, shutting down for any snow or just the prediction of snow generally only happens one to three times a year in the South at most.

Shutting down in those conditions makes sense, because of the dangers snow conditions can pose in areas lacking the infrastructure and the experience to deal with them.

Places in the North tend to close schools and government offices and even roads when lots of snow falls quickly. In the South, a couple of inches is the equivalent of a blizzard up North. Get it?

If the snow is so difficult to deal with, why didn't people in states like Alabama and Georgia just stay home and off the roads?

Well, many people didn't realize that there would be anything more than a "light dusting" of snow in, for example, Birmingham, Alabama, due to weather reports. So people went to school and work as normal. And when the snow did hit, people tried to get home before it got worse.

They all hit the slippery, icy roads at once. Cue chaos.

Cars sled off streets and into rivers.

Pregnant women, young children, and people with conditions like diabetes were stuck in the snow without help.

Five people being killed and 23 injured from traveling in unexpected snowy conditions.

Eventually some schools decided to just keep the children there overnight.

No one saw this coming.

So are you saying that state governments in the South shouldn't get any blame for how the snow storm was handled?

Officials are definitely coming under fire, especially Nathan Deal, the governor of Georgia, who is taking responsibility for the lack of preparation.

The response to the snow also did reveal some substantial problems that Atlanta needs to fix.

Unlike Boston or New York, Atlanta, though a large urban city, does not have an extensive public transportation system. Even without snow, there's usually terrible traffic. And a proposed transportation tax that might have lessened that traffic recently failed.

A lack of cooperation between city, county, and state levels in Georgia makes it difficult for Atlanta to improve its transit system.

Plus, Atlanta doesn't have an executive who can really call all the shots in the city like the mayor of New York can.

This is because the Atlanta metro area is actually made up of a number of different cities, all with different leaders. And even the mayor of the city of Atlanta doesn't have the power to shut down schools -- the Atlanta Public School system is responsible for that.

Even though lack of resources played a part in the response to the snow, the government of Atlanta could have planned better:

So you see, there are good reasons why a relatively small snow storm shut down areas of the South. But the snow revealed real weaknesses as well--the kinds of weaknesses that any state, North or South, experiencing a crisis should take a close look at to avoid such problems in the future.


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Hey Northerners, This Is Why a Little Snow Shut the South Down

Susannah Griffee

Susannah is an NYU student from Memphis who has interned at USA Today College, Games.com, The New Yorker, The New York Times, NBC, and Vogue, as well as in the U.S. House of Representatives. Follow: @susannahgriffee.

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  1. StevenJohnson says:

    The fact that southerners have to explain it out and make excuses makes it even funnier. Our cars aren’t front wheel drive and we have no plows. Horrible excuses. If you drive a Porsche, you should at least know that it handles like crap in snow. Stay home. I am sure municipalities and states in the south have dump trucks. These can easily be fitted with plows and salt units which can be taken off when not in use. They would easily last 30 years and be ready for use the 21 years you needed them. So quit complaining that us people up north are laughing at you. You obviously learned nothing from those 21 years you got snow before.

  2. SeanPapaBearRoehler says:

    StevenJohnson The thing that is bothering us isn’t the people laughing at us.  Shoot, we are laughing at ourselves.  There probably isn’t anyone better in the world at laughing at themselves than southerners.  The problem is people being downright hateful and rude.  We know it is a little ridiculous that a few inches of snow shut us down and we expected to be laughed at but the hatefulness is what hurt.  The other issue is people keep saying snow.  Where I live, it snowed for maybe ten minutes.  It rained ice for hours and hours.  Driving in the snow wasn’t the issue it was the resulting ice that caused the problem.  Driving in snow isn’t hard and we could handle it fine, it’s people not understanding the concept of black ice, which still gets these talented drivers up North too, that cause the issue.  It was the amount of black ice on everything due to there not being any infrastructure to take care of the ice.  It was the storm moving in earlier and heavier than expected.  It was a lot of things.  Yes we could buy plows to put on dump trucks and tractors but we just don’t have the money to buy something for once every ten years at best.  We have far more important things that we can’t afford now than to spend money on these random eventualities. 
    What hurt us most of all is every time something serious has happened up North the South is on alert to help immediately.  When Sandy hit, a relatively typical storm for us down here, and everyone up North acted the same way we did for this snow we didn’t make fun or make jokes or be downright hateful about people up North we just went to work helping how we could.  Something similar happens to us down here and everybody up North just seems to point and laugh.

  3. StevenJohnson says:

    SeanPapaBearRoehler Wow, how quickly the south forgets all us northerners did during Katrina. Not sure what news feed you were watching, but during Sandy most of us either evacuated the shore or battened down the hatches for a couple days. We didn’t go out in it. Funny thing is you are still trying to justify why you all went out in this mess. Up north we get our stuff beforehand and stay home. Probably the same thing you did for Katrina. Yet us northerners aren’t foolish enough to go out in storms we aren’t used to.

  4. ReeseRandall says:

    I am originally from Colorado but I live in Alabama but not where it got hit hard. When I very first lived here about 13 years ago we were barbecuing in dec. And still wearing flip flops lol as the years have past its getting a lot colder and we have had snow :( I moved here to get away from the crap but oh well this has been the coldest winter al. Has ever had in awhile !!! I guess its time to stop pretending and thinking our winters are going to be warm again and start preparing for winter like I did in Colorado. Stalking a survival winter kit In my car and getting warmer coats and Etc….. I understand the confusion about this weather and closing schools down but now we have gone through a couple cold winters I think its time to be prepared for the future and dress our kids warmer and stop delaying schools and closing schools. I do have to admit sometimes the early closings was ridiculous but I just dont think this state was ready and belive we dont want to be. Lol

  5. knightrdrx says:

    if your property taxes were $10,000 like ours you can afford all sorts of state aid.

  6. ChrisRing says:

    Really ? We don’t get events like hurricane Katrina up north? Pretty poor defense considering the metropolitan area just got slammed by Sandy a year ago and Irene the year before that. We handled both pretty well…people sleeping in their offices because of 2 inches of snow is ridiculous.

  7. ChrisRing says:

    Sandy a Relatively typical storm?. I’m pretty sure it was labeled ” largest storm in recorded history “. Y’all get them often?
    We were without power and fuel for weeks on end. I still made it to work.

  8. Madisyn says:

    I think you are all being ridiculous. Why do y’all care so much? A snow storm hit the south, where we were not properly prepared for it, and it knocked us off of our feet for a few days. So what? It happened, no one can ever take it back. You’re all making a big deal about how the south was being ridiculous and how the north is being rude, when all we should be focused on is recovering and moving forward. Ignorance is my biggest pet peeve. Sorry.

  9. vhwoodward says:

    What frustrates me is people stating their opinions when ostensibly, they do not understand the context of the situation. It took me five hours to get home– this is typically a thirty minute commute. Sadly, this was an ideal situation. I can drive in snow without a problem. While I am from the south, I have spent significant time in both the Midwest and the Northeast. However, this is not the case for most Southern drivers. The other issue that has been “glossed over” is that everyone was released from school and work at the same time. This was a complete failure of the Mayor and the Superintendent; however, I am unsure how that failure can be generalized to the entire Southern region.
    Last year, I had to drive an hour in New Hampshire (where I had never been) during a snow storm in the late evening. I was in a rental car, my phone had died, and the gps broke. I only mention this to illustrate my point–I would make that trip twenty times over before I would put myself driving in snow in Atlanta again.
    People were stranded on the interstate with children for 24 hours. They were running out of gas, they had no food, no water, and no place to go. I find it abhorrent that you would make light of such a situation. Shame on you. Southerners make “excuses,” because ignorant “Northerners” like to pass judgement.
    Do you know that a woman started a Facebook group and a smartphone app to increase communication about open shelters? Do you know that people walked ten to twenty miles to bring gas, food, and water to people? Or to bring insulin to a diabetic child? Are you aware that numerous people opened their homes to strangers? You are right that generally, southerners cannot drive in the snow. However, we also have a sense of community and human kindness that you obviously lack.
    What about the Chicago heat wave of 95, that resulted in over 700 deaths? Even though the city was so ill-prepared, I do not remember the south “chuckling it up,” and poking fun at those individuals.
    I always find that those who speak of others ignorance are typically just showing their own. You were not present for the snow here, you do not understand what occurred. So please, continue to laugh at the South, and I will continue to have Southern pride. This is a place where, instead of insulting and stereotyping, we would rather help those in need. Shame on us, right?

  10. pink44 says:

    They went out in it because they HAD to. Schools were open. Government was open. Stores, resturants, and doctor’s offices were open. Then they ALL closed early at the same time. High population = high traffic. They did not have 2 inches of snow on the ground they had snow covered ice with ice over the snow. Stop being a self righteousness prick and accept that you weren’t there with them. They are americans the same as we all are but you somehow think you and your neighbors are better than them?.. They don’t have snow tires or chains. They couldn’t get plows through because the traffic was congested. Having plows to do the job would have been futile because they couldn’t get through the ice roads to plow them. You weren’t there and until you are, you have no place calling them dumb or ignorant. Parents had no choice but to go get their children from school. People have no choice but to go to work when there is no bad weather at shift start. They HAD to go out. And they had no way of knowing it would be solid sheets of ice.

  11. SteveKAdams says:

    I stayed home. 1 1/2 days went back to work. Had hot cocoa and enjoyed the snow I rarely get. But I wasn’t driving on ice. I’m from Alabama and our tri-county are handled it well. Thank You.

  12. M A Gentry says:

    I liked the article but another thing that should be added is the differences in landscape. Yes, cities are what is under the most fire in this scenario; however, in a lot of places, like East Tennessee for example, it is more “backroads” than highways. Some people have to travel extremely long distances through rural areas with narrow, curvy, shaded (so colder) roads, that even snowplows and salt trucks cannot get to, to be able to get to work and school. A lot of those people have no choice but to still go to work because if they lose their jobs their family might not be able to eat or have a home for the next six months until they can find another one. It is not always as simple as prepare better or stay home. Sometimes all the preparation in the world cannot prepare one for what is to come. The south should not be berated for things that people that do not live here, do not understand. No one should, no matter where you are from or what you believe. This is not a simple weather issue. This shows that as a nation we are so determined to be superior to one another that we cannot recognize that people are different and have different needs for a multitude of different reasons.

  13. BenjaminEricsWillis says:

    ChrisRing  Sandy was a Category 1 at best when it hit you guys. Down here in Carolina we have cookouts during that level of a storm.
    That just goes to prove the point of the article that different regions of this country are prepared for different things. You also probably didn’t see many Southerners making fun of all your cars under water, either.
    Different climates AND different cultures apparently.

  14. BenjaminEricsWillis says:

    ChrisRing  It was barely a Category 1 when it hit you guys. Google. Try it.

  15. StevenJohnson says:

    BenjaminEricsWillis ChrisRing
    Sandy wasn’t what did all the damage here. It was the storm surge. I seriously doubt you get those on a regular basis. Nice try.

  16. kerstinelaine says:

    StevenJohnson  Wow, you are just rude beyond belief. I grew up in Chicago and I now live in East Tenn. I do giggle when people say “snowmageddon” when there is not much snow on the roads. The fact remains that not everywhere has snow plow ready to roll out at a moments notice like up North. I remember the blizzard of 1999 up in Chicago and we had 6’+ drop in about 2 days. We plowed the roads, shoveled our driveways and walkways and life went on. Down here, it doesn’t happen that much. It’s not normal for there to be a lot of snow on the ground in the winter here, so of course people aren’t going to handle it like we did up there. There’s also this thing called terrain. Before living here, I was in Western NC. People can slide off the mountains trying to get out. It’s not the same as sliding off the edge of a flat road. And mix that with people who don’t know how to drive in the snow because it is unfamiliar, un-paved roads, un-salted roads, and mountains, you are just asking for disaster. But not everywhere in the south has those mountains. It doesn’t change the fact that not everyone is accustomed to the snow down here. I stay off the roads because I know other people here don’t know what they are doing. I watch them from my window flying down the road and around curves. So, just keep in mind that you are prepared to handle something not everyone can and carry on.

  17. StevenJohnson says:

    kerstinelaine Ok, but if you aren’t used to plowing roads, why the hell would you go out in it? I have family that lives on mountains in NY…they stay the hell home. It’s not brain surgery. It’s common sense. They have these wonderful channels now that give you the weather 24/7. It’s not like these thing sneak up on you. All you gave was poor excuses. You even said you realize people down there don’t know what they are doing, so why defend them? It’s snowing here now, and guess what we all did yesterday? We got supplies and hunkered down. Not that difficult. So stop making excuses for stupidity.

  18. kerstinelaine says:

    StevenJohnson Guess what I did-I got what I needed before it snowed and I’m not out in it either. Just what I learned from up North. So many people are told that they have to come into work or neglect to get what they need from the store when they should have. Sometimes the snow comes in while kids are at school and people are at work. They end up stuck in it with many others that aren’t used to it. Those are the people I mean. Because the snow doesn’t usually drop like it does up North they just don’t think it will be that bad and learn their lesson afterward. But like I said-you’re rude.

  19. WillLdangit says:

    Don;t forget that chains are illegal in a lot of the south and no one owns snow tires

  20. SLDEI1 says:

    vhwoodward My husband and I loaded up our van and took supplies from NC to New Jersey after their storm!

  21. SLDEI1 says:

    StevenJohnson kerstinelaine I believe what happened was GA was hit quicker and harder then anticipated. You have to realize that these people were already out when this occurred and were trying to get home! You must also consider that it was not a dusting of powdery snow it was freezing rain that froze fairly quickly in large amounts covering the roads while the roads were full of traffic and the domino effect didn’t take long! Im in NC and we aren’t equipped sufficiently for snow and ice and I don’t believe it is as simple as strapping on a plow to a dump truck and just doing it! The man-power, training and up keep cost more than you realize and we are dealing with a lot of rural areas as well! Thank you for your sincere lack of humanity! I for one will be empathetic to all no matter where they come from because the fact of the matter is I/we don’t always know all of the facts! May God bless you and keep you safe! :)

  22. vhwoodward says:

    Steven– perhaps you want to examine the patterns on these comments. They are negatively directed at you. I notice you never replied to my comment– what about the Chicago Heat Wave? Calling people stupid just shows your own hatred and anger. What I don’t understand is why you are spending so much time on this comment board. You scoff at us Southerners for needing to defend ourselves, yet I am unsure how you are not doing the same. I am sorry that you are such a bitter person that you have to attack a whole region of people who trusted the weather forecasts that 2 inches of snow would accumulate by 8pm. I really hope you making these outlandish comments helps you relieve some of your anger.

  23. vhwoodward says:

    Oh, please do not get me wrong– I would generally say that people in the north are helpful, wonderful people. I went through Katrina– I know how much help was given. That is fantastic that you and your husband drove to help! I am not trying to stereotype people in the north– I am only directing my comments at the small group of people who seem to judge with no knowledge of what occurred- that is obviously not you!

  24. StevenJohnson says:

    vhwoodward I actually have seen things on Facebook making fun of the heat in the summer up north from southerners. So yes, it goes both ways. Going out in snow when you know you can not handle it is basically the definition of stupid. Funny thing is that I originally posted a while ago, and I am amazed you southerners are still reading this article from 2 weeks ago and commenting.

  25. CPMac says:

    StevenJohnson  I’m not going to argue with you, because your opinion has been formed and you have no intentions of changing it. I do, however, need to point out two very basic issues with your argument. 1) Staying home, while ideal, is only an option if you do not have a job or you can work from home. 2) According to the article you are commenting on, it snowed 9 years out of 30, not 21. That is significantly less experience than you are alleging they would have had. Please continue your arguments with this updated information in mind.

  26. SLDEI1 says:

    StevenJohnson vhwoodward I just saw it for the first time today. I work for a living so I play catch up! LOL

  27. vhwoodward says:

    Steven- you are still commenting as well. It was not snowing when people left for work. It was flurrying when a lot of people were released from school and work. Stupid me– I only have a PhD and was required to go to work. You are right though– I am unsure why I am still arguing with you. You just used said LOL– as Mark Twain said, “Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” So adieu, my fellow fool.

  28. CindyLuce says:

    It seems the South will have to get Snow Plows and salt and the North will have to get Tornado Shelters

  29. goKicker says:

    We’re not impressed with the tone of the discussion here. Can we please be more civil? Can’t we all just get along?

  30. StevenJohnson says:

    vhwoodward That actually made me laugh. Thanks. I needed a laugh after snowblowing and shoveling all this snow we got today. LOL

  31. StevenJohnson says:

    CPMac My apologies. I read that wrong. I still find it funny you all got so butt hurt over some stupid postings on the internet. BTW, up here, people do stay home even though they have jobs. Not exactly a great excuse.

  32. dotson2030 says:

    ChrisRing You still not getting it  or you? Forget the Hurricane what about the threat of a F4 or F5 tornado every week for the North.  You would be shaking in your boots if you had to go through that. 33 to 49 people getting killed in a matter of seconds.  My husband had 6 family members in one house to get killed some of which body parts were never found.  So give me the snow. No, we don ‘t have the equipment that’s why they send us home. It’s so rare here

  33. dotson2030 says:

    StevenJohnson BenjaminEricsWillis ChrisRing Hurricane?  Ya’ll couldn’t handle the tornadoes we get those we get on a regular basis.  Our F4s are worst then anything you have seen.

  34. dotson2030 says:

    StevenJohnson vhwoodward so are you

  35. dotson2030 says:

    StevenJohnson CPMac Maybe because you’re are showing your butt.

  36. Bzuuboo says:

    I’m from Colorado, but I think it’s pretty rude to just assume people can up and stop their lives for a few days. A lot of people don’t have the option to just not go to work. Just last winter I would have to drive to work at 4am going 10 mph because I couldn’t call in. And I’ve spent nearly all my life driving in snow. It still sucked, and there were still people in ditches. And I have friends from CO that now live in Tennessee and North Carolina who have commented on how even they were caught off guard by this. This north vs. south argument is absolutely stupid. Unexpected things happen to everyone, so give them a break

  37. kailynjay says:

    I actually find it quite funny that people (I’m assuming from the north) actually just keep trying to justify the rude comments the Northerners have said about the whole south and snow situation. Didn’t realize people would stand so strongly in argument to prove it is okay to be rude…

  38. JerryHaire says:

    StevenJohnson Actually it says that it HASN’T snowed in 21 of the last 30 years. In other words it has only snowed in 9 of the last 30 years.

  39. JerryHaire says:

    The main problem at least in NC is every year the “experts” put out winter weather advisories warning us of all this snow/sleet and icy roads. Like clock work we wake up the next day to NOTHING. No snow, sleet or ice. So we tend to get the boy who cried wolf syndrome. They warn us and we say yeah right we’ve heard that crap a thousand times before. This time they got us. I went to bed and it was 47 degrees. When I woke up there was 8 inches of snow on the ground. I see lot of comments about two inches of snow shutting everything down but it was a lot more than that. At least here. I’ve lived in NC for the last 16 years. I have never seen this much snow. I built my first snowman today and I’m 43. It was the ugliest damn snowman ever!  Sometimes things happen that are unusual and unexpected and things can get out of hand quick. As far as the northerners being rude or mean I say whatever. Get over it. I spent the whole day on Facebook making fun of myself with jokes about not going outside because something strange was falling from the sky and burning my skin. It’s all in good fun.

  40. CPMac says:

    StevenJohnson CPMac  I’m not personally “butt hurt”, I was merely pointing out faults in your logic. And I was not providing an excuse, I was providing a fact. I have not lived in the wonderful state from which you come, but in my state, neglecting to show up for work generally results in being written up or fired. In the event that someone has sick/vacation days, they can use one of those, but very rarely do bosses in my state accept the excuse “I’m not coming in for work this morning, because the weather report shows a possibility of snow this evening.” This is probably because what he hears is something akin to “Hey, the Cubs are going to win the World Series this year!” It doesn’t matter if the government has declared a state of emergency and told everyone to stay home, if your boss is at work, you’re at work. That’s just the way it is here. This not an arguable point, it’s a fact of life in a region with which you are unfamiliar. I can appreciate that life operates differently where you live. I’m asking that you give Southerners the same courtesy.

  41. BrysonBrindle says:

    You honestly should have written this report. You said it perfectly. Northerners just do not understand the concept of black ice. It is below freezing prior to the snow falling in the north thus when the snow hits it just compacts. Unlike the north we will have temps in the 60’s or even 70’s then the next day a cold front and snow will move in and our grounds and roads will still be warm and melt the snow. Through the nights it will freeze and refreeze creating massive sections of black ice that tires simply will not grip and are not easily visible as well. Southern or northern driving on ice is like running on an ice rink without ice skates. I challenge northerners t drive on ice in regular vehicles, youll fail especially on a windy and hilly 30 mile commute.

  42. BenjaminJoshuaVoegele says:

    comparing a dusting of snow to a hurricane or a tornado is just ludicrous and an insanely flimsy argument. tornado’s and hurricanes cause ACTUAL damage without any help from humans. snow just falls and then lays there, waiting for a human to do something stupid with it before it becomes dangerous. i understand that southerners aren’t used to it, but it’s not like driving in the snow is rocket science! you drive slower and you brake sooner! not that hard to figure out!

  43. FixCain says:

    ChrisRing  LOL are you kidding me?!?! It was a tropical depression when it made landfall.. Which is below the weakest level of a tropical storm! Which in itself is below the weakest level of a Hurricane! 
    Our 6-15 inches of snow/ice is the equivalent to us as your blizzards. Just like your thunder storm to you was the equivalent of a direct hit of a cat 5 hurricane. 
    Tropical depressions here everything stays open life carries on. Even in tropical storms… Quit being a moron.

  44. FixCain says:

    StevenJohnson BenjaminEricsWillis ChrisRing  
    Actually… yes we do… It wasn’t even a hurricane… or a tropical storm… Sandy was a tropical depression… Which… is like a thunder storm with a lot of rain… 
    Our coastline is better built and prepare for storm surges by the way but sometimes our walls fail it happens. Storm surges happen during tropical storms.. derp… 
    See how this works? You guys can’t handle a small tropical depression and some rain because you don’t know what the hell to do with it, and don’t prepare properly for it. 
    Nice try.

  45. FixCain says:

    StevenJohnson SeanPapaBearRoehler  
    Steven, Where were you after Katrina? You sure don’t seem like the kind of guy that would have been down here helping people evacuate after the destruction. Stuffing your face and bitching and moaning about how the south can’t handle a silly little hurricane were we? 
    Next Cat 5 that hits, I expect to see you there helping out.

  46. l_lowman says:

    JerryHaire  I’m !4 years old and live in Julian, NC, and I’m from Thomasville. Thomasville sees some snow, but not much, especially in the East Davidson area. But when you get to Julian or Climax, we don’t hardly see any snow, compared to our neighboring counties Pleasant Garden or Alamance. This time the snow hit us hard and i haven’t seen snow like this down here in NC since the actual blizzard of ’02-’03. I agree with what you are trying to get across whole heartedly!

  47. etapi65 says:

    BenjaminJoshuaVoegele  You do realize that a lot of the issues with Sandy (which was not a hurricane when it hit NY) were solely a result of poor infrastructure, designed in such a way that it didn’t account for tropical storm type hits?  Subways systems, below-ground transformers, large, below ground parking decks, buildings at (or below) sea level, people who decided not to leave their homes because they “didn’t buy all the hype”.  Sound familiar?  They had heard about all this hurricane stuff before and it hadn’t materialized (at least not since Gloria in 1985 for a coastal hit and that was minor).  The 1992 Superstorm caused a lot of coastal erosion and some big waves, but didn’t strongly affect the city.  In Jersey it was the movement of populations to the beachfront, bridges not meant to withstand hurricane water elevations and superimposed wave action…they had an amusement park ON the water…  So, while I understand your base point “there’s a way to deal with this just do it” it’s not that easy.  Your premise also makes the assumption that “northerners” somehow magically know how to deal with snow/ice.  I lived on Long Island for 6 years commuting from Hampton Bays to Stony Brook every week day, they get snow all the time; doesn’t stop wrecks, pile ups, cars being buried by snow plows, etc… on Sunrise highway every time there’s snow it’s a bloody mess (especially the further east you go where the plows never seem to reach east of Riverhead and forget about Montauk highway being cleared).  Traffic in cities like Atlanta and Charlotte (with very little used public transit, despite MARTA) is sitting in a mess for 2 hours on a good day.  Take that volume of traffic and add ice and it’s a problem that even slow driving can’t necessarily deal with.  The answer was for industry to tell their employees not to come in, but no one wants to do that, so you still have to try and get to work.  Plus, with that many people on the road emergency vehicles, what plows and salt trucks are available can’t move either.  So, the normal rush hour crazy traffic, the normal 6-10 wrecks that occur in that traffic a day…now happening on 3-8 inches of snow or 1/2-3 inches of ice.  What’s the mystery?

  48. DarisseSmith says:

    BenjaminJoshuaVoegele  Yeah, snow isn’t heavy and cave in roofs or without plows or salt and sand on the roads those roads wouldn’t be slippery.  Snow doesn’t turn into ice everywhere as it melts, get heavy, and cave in trees and loads of other elements in your house.

  49. MeredithRudd says:

    I’m pretty sure the north doesn’t have all of the curvy, mountainous back roads that some of the south has either. You tell me how you fare driving up on roads like that in a city that has not as many resources for the snow.

  50. StevenJohnson says:

    MeredithRudd Seriously? Have you ever traveled rt80 through Pennsylvania? You do realize that mountain range in Georgia and the Carolinas goes all the way up the east coast? Way to show the souths lack of geography lessons in high school.

  51. SephGrave says:

    This is what happens.

  52. StevenJohnson says:

    FixCain BenjaminEricsWillisChrisRing Dumb as a brick. Small tropical depression? Ok, first off it wasn’t. It dropped to an extratropical cyclone when it hit LANDFALL in NJ. It dumped almost a foot of rain with winds at 80mph. Wind gusts were up to 100mph. This was the largest storm (in size) EVER to hit the Atlantic Ocean. The reason the storm surge affected us more than the rest of the country is because the storm actually passed through us.
    Nice try dude, but a pretty weak argument considering you are defending only 2 inches of snow.

  53. StevenJohnson says:

    dotson2030 vhwoodward Wow, you do realize vhwoodward was talking about he and I? Notice I did not argue? (shakes head in disbelief)

  54. StevenJohnson says:

    CPMacFunny you mention that. I have a friend who was told to stay home last week by his boss. Now they are debating whether they need to take a sick day or not. He still stayed home though. No job is worth risking your life over. Unless that is already part of your job description.

  55. StevenJohnson says:

    BrysonBrindle Really? You don’t think we get black ice up here? Idiot.

  56. beaustin says:

    I was born in the South but grew up and learned to drive in the North. So I would probably consider myself a Northerner. I was never in an accident in the North due to snow. I moved down to the South for graduate school and my first winter there I had an accident. My fault. I was on a highway that had been “plowed” and “salted” but it wasn’t enough. Hit black Ice and spun right off the road into a ditch. I was going slow, driving how I would have in New York but the snow in North Carolina is NOT the same. It’s not snow. It is ICE and refreeze slush. In the county I go to school in there is around twenty snow plows for the entire county. So stop your bitching. I would drive in the ten feet of snow going uphill both ways that I had back home over the 2 inches of “snow” here in the South.

  57. SephGrave says:

    StevenJohnson I have my doubts that you have ever drove on a southern road in the snow before, most northerners I know come to the south talking smack about how they can drive on snow, then a few days later their cars in a ditch and their asking for a tow and saying “this is not the same snow we get” or “the roads are different down here” or “it more ice than snow” and a billion more excuses.

    I was born and raised in the South and can drive in it fine! My wife and her family and friends are from New York, came down here saying the same type of trash you are and learned very quickly. Now when it snows they stay inside.

    The “idiot” is the one that talks without knowing! What you are showing is stupidity at its finest.

    I’ve been up North and can drive on your “cake” snow roads all day long everyday with my eyes close, so prove me wrong grab a camera and come down to the south and drive for a day.

  58. classicsboy says:

    StevenJohnson  She’s clearly generalizing based on the fact that alot of the people making fun of the south seem to be from cities like New York which are not really that hilly. In the south we literally have larger cities that are built, on, near, and into mountains, depending on what state you’re talking about. Sure, this might not be the biggest factor, but   MeredithRudd  still makes a good point.

  59. StevenJohnson says:

    classicsboy MeredithRudd You do realize that NYC sits on the shoreline, right? The rest of NY state is mountainous and has some great skiing. Stupid generalization.

  60. laurajayne33 says:

    MeredithRudd Do yourself a favor and go on vacation up North. It is a beautiful part of the country and there are a lot of curvy and mountainous back roads. I find the area around Ashville NC on the Blue Ridge Parkway to be very similar to areas in Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire. When I was there it gave me the feeling of being back home. As I see it the best solution to the problem is for business to let their employees stay home or leave well before things turn bad. We knew this storm on 2/12/14 was coming and it was going to be bad. But unfortunately employers are more concerned with the bottom line than their employees safety. I personally know 3 people just in my small Church who had to abandon their cars and walk home. I have also found out that when I bought a new car a few years ago that the tires that came with it were absolutely terrible in the snow. I felt a fear I had never experienced all my life living all around New England. Bought replacements and have had no problem.

  61. classicsboy says:

    StevenJohnson  I’m going to acknowledge that you make a good point as well, but I’m also going to acknowledge that you have no idea where Meredith or I reside. I suggest you ask us before throwing around the term “stupid”. Once you have this information, I suggest you find a good topographic map, and do an elevation comparison. You might be comparing a mountain to a mole hill, and I’d hate for somebody to figure that out first, and call you opinion “stupid”.

  62. laurajayne33 says:

    BrysonBrindle I’ve lived all over New England and I assure you we do know about black ice. Not as common as in the South but does exist.

  63. MeredithRudd says:

    StevenJohnson MeredithRudd  Another northerner throwing the education card in my face, how typical. Steven Johnson, your comment did nothing but further prove my point. I don’t live in Georgia or the Carolina’s. I live in southwest Virginia where we have treacherous back roads LIKE SOME OF THE NORTH DOES TOO, but alas, who do you think has the most resources to treat those back roads in case of a snow? Of course you in PA or someone in NY or any of the other states. In face, eastern Virginia gets a better hand than the people of southwest Virginia. We’re the poorest, and sometimes warmest, part of the state. For instance, I was talking to someone the other day about how our county never goes to school when it snows just a little bit here and I had to explain this very thing. Being the poorest part of the state we have the oldest buses and it is simply wreckless to transport kids on them on the back roads that we do have that DON’T GET TREATED. Do not ever insult my intelligence due to my geographic region. And laurajayne33 I have been to the north many times and it is a VERY beautiful place.

  64. MeredithRudd says:

    StevenJohnson classicsboy MeredithRudd  I live in the Appalachian mountains. I can go a few minutes south on I-81 and be in the Smoky Mountains. There is literally NO way you can compare that terrain to any mountains in NY. Although NY might have have its share of “hills”, it’s a completely proven fact that everything is much more mountainous here.

  65. KayTaylorFort says:

    ….or maybe down South, we know it’s only going to snow once in a blue moon and we decide to slow down, get our milk and bread (we know we’re not going to die-we just enjoy going to the store and getting into the spirit of things and meet with our fellow southerners doing the same)-light a fire in the fireplace, build a snowman, drink some hot chocolate and thank God that we live in the South where 1 inch of snow- once in a blue moon -shuts everything down and know that next week we’ll be wearing shorts and flip flops in 70 degree weather!

  66. CPMac says:

    StevenJohnson CPMac  As I said in my first comment, you’ve already formed your opinion and nothing anyone says is going to sway you from it. You will come up with a counter for any explanation or piece of logic given to you. I apologize for wasting both of our time. I hope that you continue to enjoy your derisive heckling (I believe the internet refers to it as ‘trolling’) and that you feel better soon. Have a blessed day, sir.

  67. Hot Sauce Harold says:

    This morning I shoveled my entire (some-what vertical) driveway clear of thirteen inches of snow then drove to work. (CT). Meanwhile in Raleigh NC via. imgur
    Is this article.. satire?

  68. StevenJohnson says:

    MeredithRudd I’m not supposed to insult your intelligence, yet you make it so easy. You do realize that the Smokey Mountains are a subrange of the Appalachians, right? Go back to geography class.

  69. StevenJohnson says:

    SephGraveYou miss the point…we stay home. And unless you have 4 wheel drive, you shouldn’t drive up here in it either. I’m sure you’re “driving with your eyes closed” is what started the issues down there to begin with.

  70. MeredithRudd says:

    StevenJohnson MeredithRudd  Only come back you had to my post? Wow, you’re a lovely guy, aren’t you? No wonder some people in the north get the name of being jerks. It’s because of people like you. People like you who act like they’re in a competition with the rest of the United States. It’s cruel and heartless. Who are YOU to act like you know how life is down here? I was pointing out my location and how close I was to the Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg area where those mountains reside.  You do realize it’s “Smoky Mountains” not “Smokey Mountains”, right? Go to back to English class. Have a nice day.

  71. lighter29 says:

    So…. I live in Asheville NC. Been here my entire life. I was very well equipped for both of the snow storms that came through. During the first one when all that was happening in Atlanta I drove 30 miles home with not even the slightest slip or slide because that makes the probably 100th time I have driven in it. A friend of mine, who is from new york city, lived there all his life till recently had about a 2 mile trip to get home and slid into a ditch before he got the first half mile… Now this most recent snow that happened on Wednesday the 12th did kind of hurt us a little bit. But that was due again to snow packed down over ice and the fact that we accumulated 10 or so inches in a matter of about 12 hours. However our road crews worked 24/7 all throughout western NC and by Thursday morning around 11 am we were all back out and going again. I guess what I’m trying to get at is until you drive in it yourself or were here for any of it please just keep your mouth shut. Thanks… from a police officer.

  72. ItchyZ says:

    “A http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/01/how-2-inches-of-snow-created-a-traffic-nightmare-in-atlanta/283434/ between city, county, and state levels in Georgia makes it difficult for Atlanta to improve its transit system.”
    There are valid reasons for this.  In Atlanta, they prefer black leadership.  They are just a few more inept/corrupt leaders from suffering Detroit’s demise.  And of course, the Atlanta Public Schools suffered a nationally recognized scandal involving teachers who conspired to allow prolific cheating to go on trying to make themselves look good.  So you can see that suburban leadership has been wise to keep away from tainting themselves with Atlanta’s incompetence on many levels.

  73. gingerlion91 says:

    Well see I live I NC  and my area handles it well and i’m talking about Asheville and the area surrounding it. Now people do go over board but who’s to say this storm didn’t stay over us and we might get 2 feet of snow and not be able to leave home so now all that bread and water we got is worth it. Also we didn’t get 1 or 2 inches I think at my house we had 10 or 11 inches and we also see it as time to have fun and go snow drift cause we have curves that you can do that in were as in the North its mostly straight lines. Then when I walked out this morning everything was ice and were not scared of the snow were afraid of the ice that comes with it. Because every time it snows my first words are who wants to go snow drifting. So why don’t you shut up.

  74. MaryBird333 says:

    StevenJohnson A. there is no reason to be rude to everyone. B. why does it matter to you what people in the South do? You are clearly happy in the North and this has had zero effect on you. Everyone comes from different areas and situations everyone understands that you are used to the snow but some people are not. You should respect other people instead of cut them down.

  75. StevenJohnson says:

    gingerlion91 We don’t have curves up north? Have you ever been here? Honestly, what the hell do they teach you in the south about the north? First, we have no mountains, now we have no curves. Glad you enjoy snow drifting. Not like we don’t toss a sled behind an ATV and go out. I actually got a big laugh out of watching some dude from down south riding a couch behind an ATV. But to say we don’t have curves really shows how stupid you are.

  76. MaryBird333 says:

    We all come from different situations and environments and I think that this post was meant to try and help people understand that. Instead of cutting each other down because of how our area handles weather, we should be supporting each other and respecting our differences. Neither the North or the South is better and both have their advantages and faults and I think we should just accept that and move on.

  77. JerryHaire says:

    l_lowman JerryHaire I’m in Winston-Salem so I know exactly what you’re talking about. A lot times we get nothing here while everyone around us does. Snow and other storms will skip right over us and pound Greensboro. It’s crazy lol

  78. CEDARWOOD says:

    MaryBird333  What about southerners laughing at hurricane Sandy?

  79. SephGrave says:

    StevenJohnsonTrust me my friend, I stay home too, I prefer not to drive in it more than I have to. I don’t go crazy and run after the bread and milk tho……
    and I’m pretty sure you’re right, driving with my eyes closed may of started it all.

  80. pink44 says:

    Your comment is about as objective and non-emotional as could be but there is no pointing yours or any valid points out to someone who knows everything or can do anything better. We all know why so much damage and drama followed the ice-snow in Atlanta and driving was only part of the problem. Lack of preparation and lack of resources mixed with extreme traffic population was primary. It is nice that you have lived both north and south so you can be objective here. I don’t understand what the deal is with the north blaming the south for all the south’s chaos but when it occurs in the north it isn’t anyone’s fault. I also don’t get why everything is a north vs south pissing contest or IQ contest, like we aren’t all citizens of the same country.
    The comments by benji above are simply arrogance. He is a know-nothing-know-it-all. And he could have made the snow melt with the hot air in his head. The issue is not ‘who can drive better in the snow’ because it was ice that caused the blunt of the chaos.

  81. MaryBird333 says:

    CEDARWOOD MaryBird333  The same thing goes for them we all are prepared for different things which is why I never specifically used an event. Just like Northerners help Southerners when there is a weather crisis in the South, Southerners help Northerners. It goes both ways and everyone should just respect each other. It is a simple lesson in manners.

  82. darsparx says:

    CEDARWOOD MaryBird333  I wasn’t laughing at that, I am actually a little scared every time one of those hurricanes pop up….especially because I fear it will actually somehow make it’s way here to NC…I’ve seen the damage those things do and I don’t want to see it hit me….I always hope they weaken by the time they hit land…weather like hurricanes, tornados, and out of the normal snow/ice fall is no laughing matter…ever

  83. DonQuigley says:

    yes, everyone from up north is right, they never get in snow related pile ups….I have nightmares about the future of America when i realize how downright nasty some people are, yes I’m talking to you @StevenJohnson…

  84. SummerMarie says:

    Hot Sauce Harold
    This isn’t satire.
    That picture was taken outside of my work just the other day.  We got hit with snow much more heavily and quickly that the weather forecast had told us.  Everyone left their offices at the same time, trying to get home before it got worse.  There was horrid traffic and people who didn’t know how to drive in the snow only backed things up worse.  
    The story behind this picture is that, the car up the hill (you know, the one on fire) was being driven by someone who did not know how to drive on ice.  They were trying to go uphill but were putting in too much gas and the wheels just kept spinning, they did this for awhile and then finally the car just caught fire.  Because of all the traffic emergency vehicles couldn’t get through.  It was a clusterfuck. Cars were abandoned because there was no where for them to go.  

    13 inches may be a normal amount for you to shovel before leaving your house, but here an exceptionally cold winters day is 40 degrees.  Snow doesn’t happen here.  We aren’t ready for it, because it never happens.  We don’t know how to handle it because it never happens. 

    So please, don’t judge us.  We do amazingly well in the heat, and can handle a drought like nobody’s business, but snow just isn’t for us.

  85. hannahjb1310 says:

    SummerMarie Hot Sauce Harold  I agree with everything this article says, and everything you said, except for “We got hit with snow much more heavily and quickly that the weather forecast had told us.”
    That is not even remotely true. The weather forecasters had it absolutely right. I work right there too – the little road on the top left (which you can’t really see) is Angus Drive – I work 100 yds down it. I didn’t see this craziness though. I left work around noon when I saw the first sign of snow, which was about 30 minutes after the weatherman said, “If you are working in Raleigh, go home NOW”. I was expecting to sit in traffic time. The snow was coming down pretty hard on 540 once I hit Leesville/Creemoor, but it wasn’t sticking yet, so I made it home in almost the same amount of time as usual. I figured everyone was most likely already home. 
    Back to the weather forecasters, I don’t care who you listen to, but they ALL said this would happen. Since Tuesday night they said we would get 3-4″ of snow from 12pm-5pm, and then it would turn into freezing rain. Some even predicted we would get more than that. For us, getting upto one inch per hour is pretty decent accumulation. Why people didn’t leave work immediately when it started snowing in the triangle is beyond me. I thought people would have learnt from Atlanta two weeks ago but I guess not. We have so many naysayers down here, who for some reason really don’t want to believe the weatherman when he predicts snow. Yes, we know the weatherman has been wrong in the past, but why do we listen to him when he says there’s going to be a hurricane, or change our weekend pool party plans when he says it’s going to rain all weekend, but not listen to him when he says we’re going to get snow? At least look at a weather map/radar – this storm was huge. There was absolutely no way we were going to avoid it. And if the weatherman is wrong , and predicts 5″ and we only get flurries, then oh well, there’s no harm done. I’d rather be safe than sorry. 
    The weather forecasters absolutely had it right, and I’m sure they were able to sleep that night knowing that that awful traffic situation was NOT on them. I’m just hoping, that for everyone’s sake, people start taking the weatherman more seriously.

  86. Vince ODriscoll says:

    I live in the northeast corner of New York State, north of the Adirondack mountains, the site of the 1980 Winter Olympics.  The Adirondacks are hardly a “hill”.  Unless you have been to the Adirondacks and the Catskills for that matter, then you have no idea what you are talking about.

  87. Vince ODriscoll says:

    Just because something is open doesn’t mean you leave common sense at the door.  You would think after the first southern snow/ice storm left people stranded that when the second storm was announced that people would have learned and stayed home.  That didn’t happen.

  88. Vince ODriscoll says:

    Northerners are very well aware of black ice. Ridiculous statement.

  89. TheMetroArtist says:

    MeredithRudd StevenJohnson  I think the better generalization would be to say that Northern Cities (with an exception of boston) are built in more grid like layouts in oppose to southern cities who have a lot of wooded districts, and a curvy road suburban layout which causes a lot of issues when dealing with plows and recovery….Most of the large southern cities are located in a coastal plain so they are pretty flat….any large city on the east coast (north to south) from Atlanta all the way up, are built on the Fall Line so all of those cities have major hills….ATL, Charlotte, Richmond, DC, Bmore, Philly, NYC, and Boston….so I do not think Terrain is as big of an issue that you make it @MeredithRudd…..as for the mountains @StevenJohnson is right….you have the same mountains as you do down south as they do in the north. Any tunnel in NYC is less than a 45 minute drive from the mountains….and in the metro area alone, there are low riding mountains in northern jersey where all the celebrities/rich people live that have panoramic views of the NYC skyline….the only non mountainous part of NY state is the New york Metro area and the 100 mile long, long island….Even in Philadelphia, you are less than an hour away from mountains with peaks into the 1000s……I grew up in Virginia, in the Virginia Beach area, and the mountains were 3 hours west of me….to see any type of hill or elevation, we had to travel 2 hours west in order to see any type of hill. Unless you are in southwest VA near Bristol & Roanoke, the mountain ranges are just a narrow strip, while in the north most of the states are covered in Mountains and Terrain.  When I moved up north (lived in Baltimore, Philly, Jersey, NY), it was crazy to be on a high level in a skyscraper and see nothing but mountains around you in the distance and to even leave a flat place in the inner city to ride a train to the burbs and find that you are on a mountain top….the elevation is crazy and diverse up north….

  90. AngelaArnoldRizzo says:

    StevenJohnson  I’m a history teacher in New York and many of my high school students couldn’t even point out New York and Pennsylvania on a map.  It’s not a southern problem.  It’s a national education problem.

  91. nhargrow says:

    Being the aunt that is pregnant as can be with the husband that was stuck on the road for a total of 13 hours before he has to leave the car to find shelter as to not freeze to death I will say this…..I grew up in Detroit he grew up in Lansing we know how to operate in snow…..on flat land…..in a city that is prepared to respond to this type of thing. Atlanta is a bunch of hills and ice and hills don’t mix well so yes it shut the city down as it should have. That was by far thee worst thing I have ever experienced because I chanced preterm labor to get to shelter and my baby at daycare because I did not have a choice. It was that or freeze to death on the side of the road.

  92. MustLoveHugs says:

    Honestly, this just seems like a diversity problem. I’m from Long Island (that’s in NY) and go to school upstate (really more mid-state) in Albany. We’ve probably had more cold and snow this winter than any in the past four years I’ve lived here and I’ve become a much better driver because of it. The difference in Albany compared to Long Island is that the counties and cities invest in fleets of salt trucks and plows, whereas further south (downstate and Long Island) they do not. They get three inches of snow in my hometown and it’s a “storm” that shuts down the island. I drove home in one recently, actually. I find this ironic because the better drivers actually tend to be concentrated further south because there is more traffic. There are less people up here, so when people from the boondocks try to drive around Albany it is honestly scary because they can’t deal with the traffic. 
    However, it was incredibly offensive that you compared some snow to a hurricane Sandy. People literally died near where I live. Their houses shot up in flames and my parents saw it from across the bay. Our first floor was completely annihilated, and we were the lucky home. We’ve had many hurricanes before- we live on an island. The difference was that our natural infrastructure (the barrier islands that create the Great South Bay and separate us from the Atlantic) breached. That wasn’t something we could have even planned for. There is a big difference between a hurricane and a dusting of snow since the snow is not, in and of itself, destructive. You settled your argument with tweets that were just as offensive as the ones Northerners were using towards the South, maybe even more offensive. 
    Can we all just agree that no counties can be prepared for things they don’t expect to happen?

  93. pink44 says:

    Why kind of morons don’t get the fact that parents didn’t have a choice to stay home when schools were open. This was not a civilian problem (generally)… this was upon the governnent and school districts. And for the 10th time…it was NOT a dusting of snow. The problem was ice on the road, followed by snow, compacted, and covered with more ice. Stop being douches.
    But people like steven johnson on here are so high on their northern crosses that they couldn’t find logic if it was hitting them in the head. Just looking for a reason to be a herk because you think you are superior but you aren’t so get over your narcissim.

  94. pink44 says:

    I find it disturbing that you find it funny… kids sleeping in buses and schools. Thousands of accidents. Fatalies including a 17 year old high school student. Teachers stuck at school overnight while their children are home. Babies being born in freezing temps without doctors. A father walking 6 miles that took 2.5hours to be with his 5 year old daughter during the night at school. Single mother’s with no choice but to work, wrecking their cars and being charged $1700 to tow it. Peopke stuck in their cars with no food, no heat (after a while), and no bathrooms. Elderly and children with no heat/power. Fire trucks and ambulance stuck/wrecked with no way to help. The list goes on… but hey, what do you care, they are just dumb southerners and not people, right?
    One can only hope that you will experience the similar and become humble one day. Then again… a sociopath does not change.

  95. pink44 says:

    My previous comment was @steven johnson (king of douches)

  96. nfergus13 says:

    I’m sorry your artice is bullshit, I’m from new york and we had a tornado one year, one which fell on my school we dealt with it. I’m from the carribean So hell yeah I’m used to hurricanes, hurricane sandy we dealt with it..snow we deal with it..so northerners this northerners that whatever d
    We’re in the stage of global warming everyone should be prepared

  97. nfergus13 says:

    You southerners are only think of the city that’s the problem. Not all of the north is built like the city they’re many suburban and rural areas mixed with metropolitan so what’s your point

  98. nfergus13 says:

    Not to mention when the south think of the north they only think of nyc as in Manhattan. Every one knows places like penn, mass, Vermont, maine, and even long island, the 5 boroughs and upstate ny have very similar roads to the south. Most of “the north” is suburban and rural mixed with metropolitan areas just like the south. So please with the you guys have no hills. Come up north and learn your geography and let’s compare who really has flatter land, because from what I know the north has far more mountain etc only the city as in Manhattan is prepared for the snow go into actually neighborhoods outside of it not so much but you don’t see us complaining. Me also being from the carribean I’ve seen many summers where southerners would say oh northerners can’t handle the heat they’re dying omg it wasnt that serious same situation.